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I am soooo upset... and feel soooo stupid... I just sat there and listened to words such as 'arthritis' and 'degenerative'......

 

I agree... there may be some degenerative damage present NOW, over 8 years since the injury, but very likely not at the time of the injury. At the time of the injury I was slim and fit and active, 8 years younger, and never still. I had had two jobs, one full-time and one part-time, for most of my adult life. I weighed less than 8 stone. My leisure life was full of home DIY tasks; decorating; gardening, including growing vegetables; car maintenance; housework; cooking; parenting, including taxi service; coping with elderly relatives; university courses; etc.. 

 

There are very few things that I really know about this injury:

  • I know for sure that my foot slapped down BEFORE the violent, violent, violent pain in my knee.

  • I have been told that the tear in the lateral meniscus was a radial tear.

  • I have been told that there is a small area of Grade 4 Chondromalacia in the medial part of my knee.

 

I know that I have two problem areas in my right leg:

  1. the ankle,

  2. the knee,

and possibly, 3. my groin / hip too...

 

 

Why? and What? Questions

 

  1. I don't know 'why' the lateral meniscus tore...

  2. I don't know 'why' there was Grade 4 Chondromalacia...

  3. I don't know 'why' there is still joint tenderness and additional pain over the fibular head in the lateral side of my right knee... after an arthroscopic procedure on the radial tear in the lateral meniscus...

  4. I don't know 'what' is wrong with my ankle such that my foot slaps down...

  5. I don't know 'why' everyone thinks that my knee is stable, except me...!

 

 

Facts about the Inury

 

I know that I was jogging in the Summer of 2006. (This is currently over 8 years ago.)

 

I know something happened to my right foot such that it 'slapped' down onto the ground as I was jogging.

 

I know that I did a further two steps with my right foot slapping down on the ground. (Why didn't I stop jogging? There was no pain, I had no reason to stop!)

 

I know that I experienced a violent, violent, violent pain in the lateral side of my right knee after my right foot was slapping down on the ground.

 

I was told that the violent, violent, violent pain was probably the lateral meniscus tearing.

 

I was told that the tear in my lateral meniscus was a 'radial' tear. (A radial tear is "commonly" the result of trauma, not always, but most times. Usually, according to research literature, 'horizontal' and 'longitudinal' tears are thought to be 'degenerative' tears.)

 

I was told that there was Grade 4 Chondromalacia. (Grade 4 Chondromalacia is the last stage before 'bone on bone' contact. Research suggests that with wear and tear over time, a meniscal tear may result in damage to the articular cartilage of the femur and chondromalacia.)

 

I know that there was medial pain in my right knee, pre-arthroscopy. (I discovered this fact during a local ultrasound investigation into lateral, right knee pathology. The doctor also passed the ultrasound input device over the medial side of my right knee which elicited a major pain that I had not experienced before. I was not told what this might be, but I assumed that it might be arthritis.)

 

I know that the pain in the medial side of my good, left knee feels the same as the medial pain in my right knee. (I have had medial pain in my good, left knee for maybe some 5+ years now, which I have assumed is arthritis, and may be the result of my good leg having to do most of the weight-bearing when I am standing or walking, in the absence of much help from my right leg.)

 

I know that the joint tenderness and additional pain over the fibular head in the lateral side of my right knee was recognised before the arthroscopy, and is still present, post-arthroscopy, and still now over a year later.

 

 

Post-Gait Training Exercises

 

I have been told that the pain in my bad, right knee is arthritis, mainly I think because I said that the pain may even be present when I am doing nothing at all.

 

This may be true of the medial side because the pain there feels similar to that on the medial side of my good, left knee which is often painful, having had an exceptional amount of work to do supporting my body-weight with very little help from its contralateral comrade. But I cannot agree that the pain, or all of the pain over the lateral side of my knee, nor at its back, is arthritic in nature. It is not the same sort of pain as that over the medial side.

 

I have suspected for some time that I have arthritis in my good, left leg, along the medial side of the knee. This intermittent pain is very similar, if not the same as that which I felt in the medial side of my bad, right leg during an ultrasound investigation. Whilst looking for any pathology in the lateral side of my bad, right knee, the doctor also passed the input device firmly over the medial side. This produced was a sharp, stabbing pain that seemed to be moving from the inside of my knee to the outside. I thought at the time that this pain along the medial side of my bad, right knee might be arthritis because it seemed to me to be the same as that in the good, left leg, yet totally different to that on the lateral side of the bad, right knee.

 

The pain on the lateral side of my bad, right knee is intermittent and greatly varied, but does not include sharp, stabbing pains in its repertoire, but rather pulling or catching and throbbing. It can be down most of the lateral length of my shin bone, and across the lateral side of the back of my knee down towards the calf muscles. And I still have tenderness over the lateral knee joint, along with additional pain over the point of the fibular head. These are known issues indicating possible posterolateral corner and/or proximal tibiofibular joint problems. They are also suggestive of a lateral meniscus tear... Yes, there was a tear, but that has been repaired by debridement... yet the symptoms are still there...

 

I was asked if there was any improvement in my knee pain after the arthroscopy to debride the radial tear in the lateral meniscus. And 'No' there has been no improvement in that regard. There has been some minor improvement in that there are fewer feelings of  'things' moving around under my patella but that is likely due to the scrapping of debris from beneath the kneecap. And the sensitivity over most of the lateral side of my knee when brushed lightly with my hand that occurred before the arthroscopy has not returned.

 

I was told that there didn't seem to be a second meniscal tear. Well, I didn't think that there would be. I am still of the opinion that the radial tear to the lateral meniscus was a consquence of some dysfunction and not the 'cause', and which is still present. This is particularly worrying for me because if the 'cause' of the tear to the lateral meniscus is still there, then is it possible that this may then result in another meniscal tear? So the question is what else has the same symptoms as a radial, lateral meniscus tear?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shedding Light on the “Dark Side”of the Knee

 

Recently awarded research by Robert F. LaPrade, MD, PhD, and his colleagues discuss optimum techniques for posterolateral corner (PLC) injuries:

http://www.aaos.org/news/aaosnow/feb13/research6.asp

 

They also found that the oblique popliteal and fabellofibular ligaments were primary ligamentous restraints to knee hyperextension, and they were able to develop a test to identify tears of the popliteomeniscal fascicles in patients with vague lateral knee pain.

 

To improve imaging of the area, the researchers developed an MRI technique that uses a high-field scanner with slices 2 mm thick and inclusion of the entire fibular head and styloid. The use of a coronal oblique imaging technique, angled along the course of the native popliteus tendon, was found to provide the best view of these structures and has been widely adopted.

 

In addition, arthroscopic evaluation of grade 3 PLC injuries is an effective adjunct and especially useful (and superior to the open method) for identifying injuries to the popliteus tendon femoral attachment, coronary ligament of the posterior horn of the lateral meniscus, the mid-third capsular ligament, and the popliteomeniscal fascicles.

 

 

http://www.aaos.org/news/aaosnow/feb13/research6.asp

MRI studies should capture the entire fibular head and styloid region; bone bruises over the anteromedial knee should alert the clinician to a possible PLC injury.

 

 

 

http://www.ajronline.org/doi/full/10.2214/AJR.07.3406

(2008)

Communication between the Proximal Tibiofibular Joint and Knee via the Subpopliteal Recess: MR Arthrography with Histologic Correlation and Stratigraphic Dissection

 

Functionally the proximal TFJ is related to both the knee and the talocrural joint... In terms of human knee joint function, the fibular head merely serves as an attachment for the fibular collateral ligament and the adjoining tendon of the biceps femoris muscle as well as of the arcuate popliteal ligament and the lateral meniscus [13]. Moreover, slight conjoint axial rotation of the fibula in the proximal tibiofibular joint is an integral part of the talocrural joint.

 

As shown in Figures 6A and 6B, the fibula is externally rotated in dorsiflexion of the foot, thus allowing the broader anterior part of the trochlea tali to pass within the mortise formed by the malleoli. Thus, one of the primary functions of the proximal TFJ is believed to be dissipation of torsion force applied at the ankle joint [14]. The injury of the posterior and anterior ligaments of the fibular head may lead to instability of the proximal TFJ and also to deficiency of the active movements of the talocrural joint.


 

 

http://www.wheelessonline.com/ortho/proximal_tibiofibular_joint_injuries

(On website)

anterolateral dislocation

- fall on a flexed knee with the foot inverted and plantarflexed 

- flexion leads to LCL laxity, predisposing to lateral dislocation

- peroneal muscles, EHL and EDL pull the proximal fibula anteriorly

- most common pattern of proximal tibiofibular dislocation (>85%)

- lateral knee pain, swelling, and prominence of the fibular head

- ankle motion exacerbates knee pain

- may be unable to bear weight secondary to pain

 

 

 

 

 

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